The tech conference season is currently vibrant, with Stripe and Figma hosting their events this week in the heart of San Francisco. Following his keynote at Config, I spoke with Figma’s CEO, Dylan Field, who unveiled a momentous product expansion for the company.
In our discussion, we covered the integration of AI into Figma, his strategies for platform growth, and other developments in the tech landscape, including Meta’s intensified efforts with their AI team and updates on OpenAI.
“Design and Craft Are the Differentiators”
Figma appears to be positioning itself to dominate the creative software market.
On Wednesday, in front of nearly 8,000 attendees at the Moscone Center, Dylan Field unveiled four groundbreaking products: a ChatGPT-style prototyping tool, a website creation and hosting platform, an AI-enhanced advertising tool akin to Canva, and software that rivals Adobe Illustrator.
During our previous interview, Field discussed cultural shifts within Figma after its $20 billion sale to Adobe fell through. After his keynote announcement, I was eager to explore his vision for Figma’s product suite growth ahead of an anticipated IPO, his revised AI integration strategies compared to previous challenges, and how the new products measure up against competitors.
Our conversation has been edited for brevity and clarity:
There was notable skepticism when you began integrating generative AI into Figma last year. It seems the sentiment has shifted. Do you sense this change?
Yes, I believe there’s greater understanding now regarding what these AI models can do. Our approach at Config 2024 was different; it was not based on models, which didn’t meet expectations.
Models serve a purpose, albeit with inherent trade-offs. We’re using Claude Sonnet 3.7 for our Make demo, and we are open to integrating additional models in the future. The only certainty in model development is change and unpredictable outputs.
Do you believe this new plug-and-play model dilutes responsibility from you to the model providers?
We strive to credit sources where possible. For example, when a design originates from the community, we embed an attribution link in the code. However, we cannot determine if the model has retained information post-training, which limits our accountability.
Is there concern about model providers encroaching on Figma’s domain? What’s your outlook on Figma’s positioning in an AI-centric environment?
Reflecting on the last decade, it’s remarkable how exponentially more software is being produced—it’s essentially skyrocketing. AI is a catalyst for this growth.
I firmly believe that exceptional design and craftsmanship distinguish a product and a brand. While shortcuts can yield financial success, creating enduring products necessitates superior design, a unique perspective, a quality user experience, and an impressive brand. Given the rich context that humans possess—beyond what an LLM can grasp—it’s unlikely that models can fully bridge that gap.
What is your methodology for Figma’s expansion into new product categories?
We analyze user behavior within Figma. During the pandemic in 2020, we noted that users were utilizing Figma for collaboration, brainstorming, and ideation, which led us to create a separate platform for those functions since Figma Design wasn’t tailored for them. Observing that a mere 5% of files were presentations, we developed Figma Slides. There are numerous potential use cases within Figma that we’re eager to explore.
Figma Make offers a wide range of functionalities. What’s the objective behind it?
We emphasize the journey from concept to product, which involves multiple steps, and Make encompasses that entire process. Sometimes, ideas exist holistically in one’s mind, and users may wish to prototype or refine them proactively.
Is Figma Sites intended to compete with platforms like Squarespace and WordPress? How comprehensive is your approach to web hosting?
Currently, we are focusing on hosting capabilities along with custom domain options. Figma has enabled website creation for a long time, but prior to this, users needed to deploy on separate platforms or code from scratch. Our aim is to streamline this process to make it a seamless experience for designers, distinct from what Squarespace or Canva offer, which cater more towards consumers and small businesses.
Do you plan to release a mobile application for Figma Buzz, your AI marketing tool? This could directly compete with Canva.
At the moment, that’s not in our roadmap. Our primary focus is ensuring that Buzz delivers top-tier quality on the web first before considering mobile.
I hold a lot of respect for Canva and its founders. I believe Canva primarily serves small businesses and consumers who need quick solutions. Conversely, Buzz targets enterprise-level brand asset management.
Do you envision tools like Buzz replacing traditional digital advertising?
There is a place for AI in generating marketing assets through Buzz, which can produce images and text. However, a future where these models create content that resonates with brand teams is still distant.
Industry Insights
- Meta’s AI Team Update: Internal communications from Chief Product Officer Chris Cox reveal rising stress levels within Meta’s AI division, emphasizing the need for cultural improvements and addressing organizational burnout. While noting some excitement among early adopters of the Meta AI application, he calls for a more self-aware approach in scaling operations.
- OpenAI’s Nonprofit Status: As OpenAI grapples with its corporate structure, questions remain about the equity stake held by the nonprofit. Negotiations with investors like Microsoft reflect the complexities of maintaining a nonprofit identity while pursuing significant profits.
Overheard
- “That has never happened in 20 years.” – Eddy Cue addressing declining Google traffic in Safari for the first time.
- “Tim has had a bad week. I’m not going to pile on. Sundar is cool.” – Mark Zuckerberg during a discussion at Stripe Sessions.
- “It is what it is.” – Dara Khosrowshahi reflecting on changes at Uber during an all-hands meeting.
- “Certain products I’ve been involved with have had unintended consequences.” – Jony Ive speaking at Stripe Sessions.
- “The world’s richest man has been involved in the deaths of the world’s poorest children.” – Bill Gates discussing Elon Musk in a New York Times interview.
Personnel Moves
- Instacart CEO Fidji Simo is leaving for OpenAI as “CEO of Applications,” which indicates new developments at OpenAI.
- Aliisa Rosenthal, OpenAI’s first head of sales, is departing the company.
- Rob Fergus, a co-founder of Meta’s AI research lab, has returned to lead the organization after a stint at Google DeepMind.
- Jerry Dischler, a senior executive from Google Cloud, has announced his departure after nearly two decades at the company.
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